Deus ex Machina

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53 comments posted
sounds like an ending to a

sounds like an ending to a monty python sketch lol

Posted by Anonymous on Thu, 04/03/2014 - 01:14
bad plot

A friend wrote a (bad) novel, which ends when all the characters except the narrator are killed by a tsunami.

Posted by Anonymous on Thu, 03/27/2014 - 04:08
Another example

The season three finale for Once Upon a Time-Rumplestiltskin kills himself and Peter Pan at the same time with his cursed blade when it is only necessary for him to kill peter pan with the blade. The person who writes that show needs to come up with some sort of reasoning because it is a season finale that has an ending that makes no sense whatsoever. Random disconnected ending.

Posted by Anonymous on Fri, 01/31/2014 - 06:28
question.

would the main character meeting a random one to bring the resolution fit this? it wasn't implausible, just completely random.

Posted by Anonymous on Fri, 10/11/2013 - 21:41
Answer

Well, no, because Deus ex Machina usually happens at the end, and effects the resolution.
So, unless the meeting of the two characters directly affected the resolution, it does not count as DEM.
Correct me if I'm wrong, peoples.

~Unmei

Posted by Anonymous on Wed, 12/04/2013 - 05:06
Death Note

it was literally deus ex machina, one after another

Posted by Anonymous on Sun, 08/25/2013 - 09:47
Death Note

That is because the 'divine intervention' was a character within the series. The book of unimaginable power was a weapon of the gods in the hands of a mortal. Divine intervention was inevitable... It is not a result of poor plot, it was incorporating gods of death into a mind game, similar to a intense chess match. The fact that Light Yagami (the main character) considers himself a god through his insanity may also strike you as Deus ex Machina... Although he is once again part of the story... Deus ex Machina is used when a solution is made from an extreme scenario that would not have happened... Similar to how Light came into contact with the book in the first place (ep.1)... Which was the solution to his problem of being in a world of evil... But with this solution came many problems and will probably also not be considered a Deus ex Machina because rather than ending a conflict it has begun the series... I recommend anyone who hasn't seen death note to watch it!!! It is an anime series but what they have sacrificed in graphics they have made up for in deep, complex storylines. I have seen the series countless times and I am in love with the series!!!

Posted by Anonymous on Thu, 10/10/2013 - 11:57
Well said. I agree that

Well said. I agree that although it's implausible, so is every fantasy character or Doctor Who recurring villain. It's not bad writing; the way the characters react to said Deus Ex Machina is the point of the series and the reason people love it so much.

So, cheers to you, Death Note fan. Cheers to you.

Posted by Anonymous on Fri, 02/21/2014 - 22:33
Homestuck

The whole plot.

Posted by Anonymous on Sun, 08/11/2013 - 23:50
The Hobbit in a nutshell

Gandalf may not be able to make the rain stop or fight Orc, but he seems to do a fine job teleporting into the Goblin layer to save the main characters. And his crew of eagles seem seem to be able to save everyone just in the nick of time whenever their foes surround them. Interestingly enough, the birds cant just fly the characters over the mountains and valleys of the land directly to their final destination, but only far enough to keep them from harm.

Posted by Anonymous on Sat, 08/03/2013 - 22:39
The Hobbit in a Nutshell

Gandalf can follow the dwarves into the goblin kingdom, and then fight his way out with the dwarves because goblins aren't that skilled of fighters. He cannot stand with a small group against a large group of mounted, trained orcs. Gandalf saved the life of the king of eagles once, and so he returns the favor and was notified by Gandalf through a moth. The eagles couldn't carry them all the way to their destination because they were frightened of entering Murkwood and, let's be honest, would you be able to carry all those dwarves that far?

Posted by Anonymous on Wed, 10/09/2013 - 05:43
The Hobbit in a Nutshell

Agreed.

Posted by Anonymous on Sat, 01/25/2014 - 20:46
The Entire Harry Potter 7 Book

Three convenient artifacts that were never once alluded to all just happen to be in the protagonists possession. Everything being a chance escape. The principle of 'love' overcoming the villain without any explanation. The protagonist returning to life.

Posted by Anonymous on Sun, 04/07/2013 - 19:14
anime example

In every anime where the antagonist are so much more powerful that the protagonist needs some sort of ridiculously broken means to train themselves to an appropriate level.
Dragonball Z-The Hyperbolic Time Chamber
Naruto- Kage Bushin training method (personal favorite right here. You mean to tell me that from the very start of the story he had this method available and no one told him bull)
Bleach- Tenshintai training method

Posted by Anonymous on Thu, 01/10/2013 - 18:23
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Posted by Anonymous on Tue, 11/26/2013 - 16:49
Deus ex Machina in potter

i think the final harry potter book uses Deus ex Machina because harry just so happens to find the sword of gryfondor (thats spelled wrong) lieing in a pool and when he tries to get it and nearly kills himself ron just shows up and saves him...

Posted by Anonymous on Fri, 01/04/2013 - 05:12
Deus ex Machina in potter

Isn't it told that Snape put the Sword of Gryffindor into the lake as we see a doe patronus guiding Harry to the lake and it's later revealed that Snape's patronus was a doe.

Posted by Anonymous on Fri, 02/21/2014 - 23:29
I don't know. None of the

I don't know. None of the things just "happen", it just appears that way because we don't know how they came about yet (what role the Hallows play, where the Sword of Gryffindor came from, etc.). Just because Dumbledore's plan is complex and essentially unrevealed until the last second doesn't make it deus ex machina.

There is a difference between a character who needs a weapon just looking into a hollow tree stump and "surprise" there's a sword, and a character finding a sword by surprise (to him and the reader), but the reader learning how it came to be there later in the book (as with the Sword fo Gryffindor).

Posted by Anonymous on Fri, 06/21/2013 - 00:02
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Posted by Anonymous on Thu, 11/22/2012 - 20:31
Mockingjay

People were really disappointed in the ending of the final Hunger Games book, because everything is suddenly resolved and perfect like Suzanne Collins didn't even try. I have to agree, but I don't mind it so much.

Also, I still have NO idea how to pronounce this!

Posted by Anonymous on Fri, 10/26/2012 - 16:44
The correct pronunciation

It's actually pronounced, "DAY-oos ex MAK-in-ah." It's Latin, so almost every letter is pronounced, except for the H, which is silent. That's how it works in Spanish, at least, and Spanish is heavily rooted in Latin. I may be wrong, but I'm fairly certain that's how it's pronounced.

Posted by Anonymous on Sun, 01/12/2014 - 00:19
Pronunciation

As a Latin student, you are correct (unless we're talking of church Latin which is different). It's rough meaning, as I'm sure most have figured out, is God within the 'Machine'.

Posted by Anonymous on Thu, 03/27/2014 - 07:22
Pronunciation

doos-eks-makinuh (correct me if I'm wrong)

Posted by Anonymous on Sun, 10/13/2013 - 04:10
One Exception

Deus ex Machina can be used, successfully, in one exception-when the D.E.M. is central to the story. Typically, though, it requires a fantastical element to the story.
Some examples would be Raiders of the Lost Ark, Rose Madder and Under The Dome by Stephen King, and Weaveworld by Clive Barker.

Posted by Anonymous on Tue, 06/05/2012 - 18:42
Anime example

Mirai Nikki has a great example

Posted by Anonymous on Wed, 05/16/2012 - 04:38
deus ex machina and mirrai nikki

The guy who created the survival game in mirrai nikki literally is called deus ex machina

Posted by Anonymous on Mon, 06/24/2013 - 17:35
true

True true true XD You are very right :)

Posted by Anonymous on Wed, 10/10/2012 - 21:36
Mythology

There is a lot of Deux ex Machina in mythology. Heroes in Greek mythology are supposedly able to lift tons of rock or complete impossible challenges, and the only explanation for these feats would be godly intervention. This theory is probably what made ancient Egyptians believe that magicians could use the gods' power to perform miracles and spells. Same goes for Christanity and Jesus' miracles.

Posted by Anonymous on Tue, 05/08/2012 - 22:22
Not good examples.

The feats of strength of mythological Greek heroes or the miracles of Jesus do not necessarily constitute Deus ex Machina. In the case of Christianity, Jesus, as a manifestation of God, is imbued with God's powers. The ability to perform miracles is part of his nature. A Greek hero such as Hercules has immense strength due to his divine parentage.

Deus ex Machina is a bit different. If an otherwise normal person trapped on a burning, sinking ship suddenly sprouts wings and flies to safety, for no apparent reason and with no precedent for this sort of thing happening in the story, that is Deus ex Machina. If Jesus raises the dead or Hercules performs a seemingly impossible feat of strength, it is assumed to be part of their divine nature; one is a demigod while the other, again, is a manifestation of God. Their natures being known to the reader provides a logical explanation for their miraculous actions.

An unexpected occurrence that resolves a problem isn't automatically Deus ex Machina. Deus ex Machina is identifiable by being completely out of place, unprecedented, or unjustifiable within the context of the story.

Posted by Anonymous on Wed, 11/13/2013 - 22:11
Good example

In triumph of caesar it ends with the main character seeing the future if he failed and caesar did get asassinated, but then it rewinded and he was able to save the day and figure out who the bad guy was without doing any real detective work... Great series but bummer ending :(

Posted by Anonymous on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 03:14
Another example, mostly for the Brits...

Steven Moffat is freaking ADDICTED to deus ex machina.

Posted by Anonymous on Mon, 04/16/2012 - 23:51
Clara

*Cough* the impossible girl *cough*

Posted by Anonymous on Sun, 06/02/2013 - 20:21
Yes

Yes. Yes. Yes.

Posted by Anonymous on Mon, 08/06/2012 - 04:11
Lord of the Flies

I thought that the ending of Lord of the Flies was a sort of deus ex machina, because the army guy apeared out of nowhere to rescue them...

Posted by Anonymous on Tue, 04/10/2012 - 04:37
Not Quite

When Simon's crew set the island's forest on fire it showed the sailor to where the boys were. When the boys are at their worst point, society re-initializes and they return to their conditioned, civilized manner. The ending is meant to be abrupt for that reason: to highlight the juxtaposition between a society that imploded (no good structure) and a society that can save the boys (adults). The reader does tend to wonder, though...Who will save the adults from the war and from themselves?

Posted by Anonymous on Fri, 04/12/2013 - 09:30
I don't think that was so

I don't think that was so much put in as rescue (or deus ex machina) as to provide a contrast. It was anarchy meets discipline, wilderness meets civilization. Now, if the whole island had been blown up or sunk into the sea, yeah, I would call deus ex machina on it.

Posted by Anonymous on Mon, 07/30/2012 - 04:37
Watership Down

One of the final chapters of Watership Down by Richard Adams is titled "Dea ex Machina" because in it Hazel the rabbit is saved from a cat by a young girl who picks him up, has him patched up by a doctor, and drives him to a field and lets him go.

Posted by Anonymous on Sat, 01/21/2012 - 20:37
Some history

god of machine.... exactly how this term originated. The Greeks used a crane-like machine to "fly" the actors in who were playing the roles of gods.

Posted by Anonymous on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 05:02
Mistaken

Deus ex machina actually means "god FROM (the) machine". The phrase "of machine" is "machinae".

Posted by Anonymous on Fri, 05/31/2013 - 02:08
The final battle in Ivanhoe

The final battle in Ivanhoe comes to mind, where literally God smites the evil knight.

Posted by Anonymous on Sun, 12/11/2011 - 23:49
better example :)

Like in Monty Python's Life of Brian, when Brian falls from a tower he is saved by a bypassing UFO... right? That is Deus ex Machina or whatever it is isn't it? Except that it's funny in its randomness... I don't know.

Posted by Anonymous on Wed, 09/21/2011 - 13:20
Comes from..

it really comes from when plays performed the only way to resolve a conflict was to have a god or holy spirit come down from a machine to save all. notice Deux ex machina=god of machine. was used in mostly religious plays but it is now used more loosely

Posted by Anonymous on Sun, 09/11/2011 - 16:53
ex =/= of

'ex' is Latin for 'out of' or 'from', not 'of'. In old plays they would use a literal apparatus to make a god appear and bring about resolution. The machine wasn't part of the story though...

Posted by Anonymous on Wed, 05/23/2012 - 06:13
the best example

i can't quite agree with you on that one though u are some what a good thinker

Posted by Anonymous on Thu, 09/08/2011 - 20:43
Deus ex Machina

Bergman's SMILES OF A SUMMER NIGHT uses deus ex machina masterfully in its comic climax. Perhaps deus ex machina is more desirable in comic forms.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smiles_of_a_Summer_Night

Posted by Anonymous on Sat, 09/10/2011 - 18:46
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i cant relate

Posted by Anonymous on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 16:09
above comment

very true, its pathetic really, its basically a lie. The lost writers build up something of unfathomable proportions only to realize they cant end it, thus betraying the audiences trust in their staying true to the story

Posted by Anonymous on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 22:16
Another Example

This is exactly like Breaking Dawn by Stephanie Meyers (the last in the Twilight series). There was a big get together of all these vampires getting ready to fight the Vultore and then Alice comes out of no where with another baby vampire and all is well and no fight happens. LAME ENDING!

Posted by Anonymous on Thu, 07/28/2011 - 21:39
The fight with the Volturi was a mental fight.

Yes, Alice appeared with the half vampire and his vampire sister from South America, and that totally undermined the Volturi's reason for claiming just cause. However, it was Bella's gaining control of her ability to shield that stopped the Volturi twins, Alec and Jane, from incapacitating the Cullens and those who stood with them.

The reason for the Volturi confrontation was political. Aro wanted to add both Edward and especially Alice to his entourage, but needed a reason to act against the Cullens. This is verified by Eleazar of the Denali coven who was once part of the Volturi guard. The Volturi try to provoke the Denali vampires to action by killing Irina for having reported her mistaken assumption as to Renesmee's origin. When Aro can find no way to incite the fight he, and the rest of the Volturi withdraw.

Posted by Anonymous on Thu, 10/18/2012 - 07:12
re:another example

I'm not the biggest Stephanie Meyers fan in the world, but I don't really think the end of Breaking Dawn is an example.
Alice says that she's looking for something else to help and the fact that Renesme even exists gives the situation plausibility. What wouldn't have been plausible is to assume that Edward is the first vampire in the history of histories to have sex with a human and leave them alive. What would have made it an example of deus ex machina would have been if the other half-human, half-vampire would have shown up on his own because he heard about the gathering or because god told him to or he just had a feeling that he would be needed.
Since Alice was traveling the world looking for a solution from the beginning it, it is completely possible that she found another like Renesme

Posted by Anonymous on Thu, 10/11/2012 - 22:53

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