Deus ex Machina


142 comments posted
Comepletely different concept

Comepletely different concept ex. Machina

Posted by Anonymous on Tue, 12/16/2014 - 19:57
It's Not

I'm not sure if you've played the video game, but I have two things to say about what you said. 1) It's a video game not a concept and one word of difference wouldn't really mean two things aren't connected. 2) The very beginning of the video game involves a lab break-in and everyone in the lab is killed by the criminals. The hero and the criminals have a face off the the hero is mortally wounded and then the criminals that killed every other person in the laboratory deliberately decide to not kill the hero and leave him in the lab. He is then brought back using processes that have not been tested on any other humans and break the limits of the what technology thought possible in the game. So, how is that not the introduction of a mechanic that brings the hero back to life implausibly and without explanation?

Posted by Anonymous on Thu, 12/18/2014 - 01:25
so old but cool i guess

this game is so old

Posted by Anonymous on Wed, 01/21/2015 - 00:55

I've not played the game, so I apologise for not knowing too much about it, but:
Games may not BE concepts, but they do have them. From the little knowledge I do have about the game, the concept of the deus ex machina (God in the machine) is used to describe the main character since he is part machine and is doing good things, whereas the literary technique involves solving a problem because of something like divine intervention.
For example, a hero cannot defeat the main villain until, when all hope is lost, he suddenly realises he knows the villain's one weak spot and exploits it, thus killing him.
The game seems to be different since the hero being brought back by divine means is more of an inciting incident rather than an overall solution that brings an end to everything. The game is set in a world where technology like that can work (which might even be this world, I'm not entirely sure). Like I say though, I've not played the game and only have the vaguest idea of what happens, so I may be wrong, but I still feel as though they are different.

Posted by Anonymous on Thu, 01/15/2015 - 21:15
A little extra information

I've actually played the game myself, and it's an incredibly fun game to play, but all of what you are saying is essentially true:
The game is set in the future where prosthetics and implants are commonplace and are often competitive. The game takes a serious dive into the psychology, politics, and behaviors during this period of time, and the story line is incredibly well done. If i were you, i would heavily recommend giving the game a shot.

However, in the case of a deus ex machina, the game is guilty of committing a few; During the entire story line, the entire attitude of the game is shifted from company interests to the Illuminati, and a miracle solution is generated by the flesh of the main character, who is your stereotypical antihero with no family, a dark past, and a job that involves fighting. However, the game does provide a very good backstory to offset the deus ex machina to just a minor inconvenience; The main character was the only surviving child from a genetic research lab, the same lab at which his parents were killed in by an accident, and the reference to the Illuminati is kept rather at bay by a good mix of uncertainty and downright ridiculousness from the people who were preaching their existence, which the main character was not a part of.

There's a lot you can learn from this game, so i'd recommend taking a look at it

Posted by Anonymous on Wed, 02/25/2015 - 09:46
Person of Interest a perfect example

The end of the season 3. an "awful" twist. buh i enjoy how it ended though. I love this literary device

Posted by Anonymous on Thu, 11/27/2014 - 12:55

all harry potter

Posted by Anonymous on Wed, 10/22/2014 - 08:05
ok right some people need educating

if u read harry potter then u will understand that the books have a very complex plot and do not include this technique AT ALL!!!!

Posted by Anonymous on Sun, 12/04/2016 - 21:31
When has a divine subject

When has a divine subject ever intervened in Harry Potter to resolve all issues?

Posted by Anonymous on Mon, 01/25/2016 - 06:18
Eyeless in Gaza by Aldous Huxley

When a dog falls out of an airplane and smashes before the two lovers' eyes. The woman is in shock and decides then and there to end the relationship.

Posted by Anonymous on Sat, 10/18/2014 - 09:38
Like the end of Breaking Dawn

Like the end of Breaking Dawn part 2

Posted by Anonymous on Fri, 08/29/2014 - 19:24

i Really Really hope you Mean the book.

Posted by Anonymous on Tue, 10/13/2015 - 01:42

Shakespeare's 'Merchant of Venice'

Posted by Anonymous on Wed, 08/13/2014 - 09:25
harry potter

The entirety of harry freakin potter is a big deus ex machina

Posted by Anonymous on Fri, 07/18/2014 - 05:16
No it isnt

No it isnt

Posted by Anonymous on Tue, 12/16/2014 - 19:56
My Story

Once upon a time there lived an evil witch.
God appeared Dun DUunnn. She died.
*Deus Ex Machinamajiga*


Posted by Anonymous on Wed, 05/21/2014 - 01:06
best example

I know its a bit childish, but Disney movies have the best Deus ex Machina...
Cinderella-fairy godmother
Pinocchio- the blue fairy
snow white-the mirror...need I say more?

Posted by Anonymous on Thu, 05/08/2014 - 22:56

Gandalf is the best example

Posted by Anonymous on Tue, 04/22/2014 - 06:08

No the Eagles he call are, and Gollum.

Posted by Anonymous on Mon, 12/01/2014 - 03:47

next to Dumbledore that is

Posted by Anonymous on Thu, 05/08/2014 - 23:02
At least Dumbledore stayed

At least Dumbledore stayed dead! Sort of...

Posted by Anonymous on Fri, 08/08/2014 - 06:57

Gandalf is better.

Posted by Anonymous on Fri, 09/19/2014 - 05:49


Posted by Anonymous on Sat, 02/24/2018 - 21:12

I agree.

Posted by Anonymous on Wed, 12/10/2014 - 03:09
sounds like an ending to a

sounds like an ending to a monty python sketch lol

Posted by Anonymous on Thu, 04/03/2014 - 01:14
That's what I was thinking!

At the end of Monty Python and the Holy Grail, everyone is about to go to battle in medieval armor when the police show up and shut everything down. I love Monty Python though, Deux ex Machina or not!

Posted by Anonymous on Mon, 09/01/2014 - 05:44
Life of Brian

That happens in Life of Brian, where for no reason and out of nowhere aliens save Brian from a seemingly unsurvivable fall. I'm pretty sure they do it in their sketches at times too.

Posted by Anonymous on Thu, 08/21/2014 - 21:59
bad plot

A friend wrote a (bad) novel, which ends when all the characters except the narrator are killed by a tsunami.

Posted by Anonymous on Thu, 03/27/2014 - 04:08
Another example

The season three finale for Once Upon a Time-Rumplestiltskin kills himself and Peter Pan at the same time with his cursed blade when it is only necessary for him to kill peter pan with the blade. The person who writes that show needs to come up with some sort of reasoning because it is a season finale that has an ending that makes no sense whatsoever. Random disconnected ending.

Posted by Anonymous on Fri, 01/31/2014 - 06:28
I agree

I love OUAT!! I agree!

Posted by Anonymous on Sat, 02/24/2018 - 21:13

would the main character meeting a random one to bring the resolution fit this? it wasn't implausible, just completely random.

Posted by Anonymous on Fri, 10/11/2013 - 21:41

Well, no, because Deus ex Machina usually happens at the end, and effects the resolution.
So, unless the meeting of the two characters directly affected the resolution, it does not count as DEM.
Correct me if I'm wrong, peoples.


Posted by Anonymous on Wed, 12/04/2013 - 05:06
Your wrong

not neccesarily the webster dictionary defines it as this: a person or thing (as in fiction or drama) that appears or is introduced suddenly and unexpectedly and provides a contrived solution to an apparently insoluble difficulty So unless the dues ex machina is affecting the whole story and is bringing it to a close it doesn't really need to be at the end of the story you could have like a person being saved from a fall somewhere in the beginning of the story by mysterious means could be plausible.

Posted by Anonymous on Thu, 05/14/2015 - 03:59
You're wrong


Posted by Anonymous on Sat, 05/30/2015 - 19:57
Death Note

it was literally deus ex machina, one after another

Posted by Anonymous on Sun, 08/25/2013 - 09:47
future diary

Not literally deus ex. Future diary has a literal Deus ex.

Posted by Anonymous on Mon, 04/27/2015 - 06:48
Death Note

That is because the 'divine intervention' was a character within the series. The book of unimaginable power was a weapon of the gods in the hands of a mortal. Divine intervention was inevitable... It is not a result of poor plot, it was incorporating gods of death into a mind game, similar to a intense chess match. The fact that Light Yagami (the main character) considers himself a god through his insanity may also strike you as Deus ex Machina... Although he is once again part of the story... Deus ex Machina is used when a solution is made from an extreme scenario that would not have happened... Similar to how Light came into contact with the book in the first place (ep.1)... Which was the solution to his problem of being in a world of evil... But with this solution came many problems and will probably also not be considered a Deus ex Machina because rather than ending a conflict it has begun the series... I recommend anyone who hasn't seen death note to watch it!!! It is an anime series but what they have sacrificed in graphics they have made up for in deep, complex storylines. I have seen the series countless times and I am in love with the series!!!

Posted by Anonymous on Thu, 10/10/2013 - 11:57
Well said. I agree that

Well said. I agree that although it's implausible, so is every fantasy character or Doctor Who recurring villain. It's not bad writing; the way the characters react to said Deus Ex Machina is the point of the series and the reason people love it so much.

So, cheers to you, Death Note fan. Cheers to you.

Posted by Anonymous on Fri, 02/21/2014 - 22:33

The whole plot.

Posted by Anonymous on Sun, 08/11/2013 - 23:50
Oh wow


Posted by Anonymous on Thu, 04/24/2014 - 16:16
The Hobbit in a nutshell

Gandalf may not be able to make the rain stop or fight Orc, but he seems to do a fine job teleporting into the Goblin layer to save the main characters. And his crew of eagles seem seem to be able to save everyone just in the nick of time whenever their foes surround them. Interestingly enough, the birds cant just fly the characters over the mountains and valleys of the land directly to their final destination, but only far enough to keep them from harm.

Posted by Anonymous on Sat, 08/03/2013 - 22:39
The Hobbit in a Nutshell

Gandalf can follow the dwarves into the goblin kingdom, and then fight his way out with the dwarves because goblins aren't that skilled of fighters. He cannot stand with a small group against a large group of mounted, trained orcs. Gandalf saved the life of the king of eagles once, and so he returns the favor and was notified by Gandalf through a moth. The eagles couldn't carry them all the way to their destination because they were frightened of entering Murkwood and, let's be honest, would you be able to carry all those dwarves that far?

Posted by Anonymous on Wed, 10/09/2013 - 05:43
The Hobbit in a Nutshell

The overall DEM content in LOR could be considered quite high, depending on how much you want to compare life in the Third Age with reality. It always bothered me that, despite the deep ancient history of Middle Earth, it never got out of the sword and sorcery business. Medieval tech for thousands of years ? Were they kept there by repeated Big Battles with elemental evil (their version of an asteroid strike ?), or was life sweeter for long-lived beings when they kept things simple ? The give and take of strong men with stabbing weapons, and the occasional zap from a good or bad wizard, probably constituted a sustainable, nourishing lifestyle. I dunno. But years ago I realized the Eagles were like magic reset buttons for the plot, i.e. DEM's, and just got on with the story, which is rich and satisfying anyway.
Nowadays, you gotta have something like "phase-inverted tachyons" to bail your ass out.

Posted by Anonymous on Mon, 11/17/2014 - 23:32
The Hobbit in a Nutshell


Posted by Anonymous on Sat, 01/25/2014 - 20:46
The Entire Harry Potter 7 Book

Three convenient artifacts that were never once alluded to all just happen to be in the protagonists possession. Everything being a chance escape. The principle of 'love' overcoming the villain without any explanation. The protagonist returning to life.

Posted by Anonymous on Sun, 04/07/2013 - 19:14

All of the deathly hallows were alluded to, and the principal of love overcoming evil is explained and is a theme in almost each of the books in the series. Plus the protagonist returning to life was explained. One other note: The whole series is about magic. DONT FREAKING QUESTION IT!!!

Posted by Anonymous on Sat, 05/16/2015 - 20:51
Let's balance things

Oh come on the Philosopher's Stone, name of the first novel in the series? I'll give you the Invisibility Cloak, even though it's explained that it was handed down from generation to generation, it is an unlikely coincidence that Harry is the last descendant of the Peverells! As for the Elder Wand, it was mentionned in the The Goblet of Fire that Dumbledore beat Gregorovitch in a duel and recovered his wand. So we did know about the Deathly Hollows all throughout, we just didn't know what they were.
Also, the idea that love beats all is well brought up, with the idea Voldemort cannot support any form of love due to his soul split in 7 fractions making him virtually soulless, and unable to rival with Harry's love-filled soul, making it impossible for him to take it away from him. Finally, as for the protagonist coming back to life, I consider he was never really killed and that Voldemort only really avada kadavra'd the last remaining hate fueled fraction of his own soul.

Posted by Anonymous on Sun, 06/01/2014 - 20:07
Time turners

The entire stock of time turners conveniently being destroyed. (I hated the concept of the time turners, because it creates so many plot holes)

Posted by Anonymous on Wed, 09/17/2014 - 06:32
anime example

In every anime where the antagonist are so much more powerful that the protagonist needs some sort of ridiculously broken means to train themselves to an appropriate level.
Dragonball Z-The Hyperbolic Time Chamber
Naruto- Kage Bushin training method (personal favorite right here. You mean to tell me that from the very start of the story he had this method available and no one told him bull)
Bleach- Tenshintai training method

Posted by Anonymous on Thu, 01/10/2013 - 18:23
Fairy tail's natsu

Ahah when u said that the first though was how natsu always eats something e.g. Etherion during tower of haven arc when battling jellal, and then becomes so strong like it makes sense since natsu is an idiot and eats everything even when he knows it's could kill him yet he still does it

Posted by Anonymous on Fri, 04/03/2015 - 21:15

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